BDSM couples often signal each other their dominant and submissive roles.
In Can you have a truly loving relationship in BDSM? Michael Benes
states:
BDSM does not require love, but it certainly does not exclude love…The idea that I can beat and choke my wife, and do it with nothing but love in my heart…it just does not seem right.
In BDSM Does Not Equal Sex Does Not Equal Love (Automatically)
BDSM is the richest and most satisfying …when it’s combined with a romantic, loving, sexy relationship….[but one can] play with people in educational, party or private settings, people that, for whatever reason, are not romantic relationship or intimate relationship possibilities…If you’re a perspective play partner who knows that you’re not likely to fall in love with someone and they’ve told you they’re quite likely to fall in love with you if you play together…, then maybe you need to proceed with caution before you play with that person.
In BENEFITS OF BDSM IN RELATIONSHIPS
A Kinky relationship, or one that engages in kinky sex is stronger for a variety of reasons not the least of which include the increased sense of intimacy and the levels of communication
what is it that gives pleasure to a sub? What gives her happiness and joy? Knowing that she serves her Master/Dom. When she gives her body to be sexually used in the ways her Dom enjoys, she is filled with pleasure and happiness looking at him taking pleasure. When she needs correction she takes her punishment with pleasure…After the sexual act or the punishment both will share a moment of “after care”. The Dom will go close to her to provide her the reassurance she is the one for him, he might hold her in his hug or kiss her or even grow “vanilla”. ..She …will “swim” deep in that feeling, will surrender her self even more in that “after care” happy she is the one for him. They might even grow playful in a silly way and share a laugh but they will be together as one and that is the core of Love, the meaning of Love. Love is when two individuals act as one, feel as one, think as one and live as one. They forget the “I” and become “We”. …“I feel more than I’ve ever felt and I’ve found someone to feel with. To play with. To love in a way that feels right for me.”
In Dennis Najee’s Love and BDSM
Does that mean there is not a “love” among a Master and slave. Certainly, especially in a long-term relationship, there is a strong bond that is formed. Is it love? Perhaps it is and, then again, maybe it is not. The individuals involved determine what they experience…there are many BDSM relationships that contain love as a basic component. However, there are also many instances where this is absent from the relationship.
Many relationships become long-term if there are similar socio-economic conditions because our culture reinforces at least heterosexual relationships (as a legal marriage, for instance).
From the few surveys of BDSM practitioners, the activity is popular to only less that 10% of the general population. The majority of submissives are women and the majority of dominants are men. We don’t know the exact reasons for this but at least the statistics suggest the odds are better for dominant guys looking for submissive women to form long-term relationships because of the the likely BDSM role “fit” and the cultural forces. Prospective couples with moderately disparate socio-economic status could form a BDSM-themed relationship that may resemble a “vanilla” one in other respects.
From my experience, it is not unusual to see couples that have wide differences form BDSM attachments. Ethnic, age, economic, personality, cultural and political differences can still survive the “glue” that BDSM provides practitioners. The predominant personality trait is dominant and submissive when they are together. I see this often with couples that have significant age differences such as Daddy, little girl, cougar/boy, etc. Generally most research places dominants on the controlling side and submissives with a more agreeable personality.
For guys who deviate from the BDSM norms of their gender, the possibility of forming a relationship is much harder, but these relationships can succeed because the basic cultural influences (i.e. hetero-normative) provide at least a “vanilla” glue that partners can build on.
For GLBT practitioners, there are even fewer likely practitioners and little or no cultural support. Nevertheless, the scarcity of participants limits the selections of partners. People may have to “settle” with whoever they can find that will at least satisfy higher priority partnership needs.
















I’m not sure why it is a question but I like your thoughts on the matter. In my mind, love can exist no matter what circumstances give people pleasure. Whether it does or not is a different question, but whether it can, I believe whole heartedly. 🙂
I explained my post with a little more writing to get at your critique. It is hard for the general public to understand why a relationship that often involves pain and suffering could also be love. It’s a difficult subject to explain and needs a post completely devoted to this. I hope to write about it in the future. I enjoyed your posts. -D
I enjoy yours as well. And I guess I see your point about the general public. 🙂
I have a question for you. Do you think love precedes the BDSM or does it follow? Couples I have met found love as they settled in to their relationship.
An interesting question, to be sure. I think it CAN go either way. In the end it is the qualities behind the BDSM that can cause people to fall in love. My dom and I didn’t know that each other enjoyed anything in the BDSM realm, for a while, but I had been falling in love with him anyway. His qualities that I expect of any dom, I would expect of any man with whom I was involved: leadership skills, self respect, humility, with a hidden streak of sadism , that I, as a sub, was able to see, but that any other average person, may miss.
To that end, though, I don’t think a sub and dom can be in a non-BDSM relationship for a long period of time. I don’t think we can…deny that about ourselves? So, had my relationship wioth my dom, remained “vanilla” as it were, the fire would’ve faded fast.
On a philisophical note, though, can anyone really be in love with someone, if they are not fuly “themselves”? I guess the idea is….I can love whomever. I can be in a relationship with anyone….but eventually I will naturally reject someone that will not own me. Romantic love, may be exclusive to BDSM relationships for doms and subs.
Can you clarify your last sentence about romantic love? Did you mean that romantic love can come from BDSM relationships (as well as other ‘vanilla’ ones)?
I mean….if anyone is naturally a sub or a dom, I don’t think they can have romantic love for someone that is not their counterpart sub or dom, because it would mean denying a very core part of oneself. They can love someone vanilla, they just can’t be IN LOVE with someone vanilla.
Hence I think a relationship with a kink person and a vanilla person is doomed to fail. It may take years but I think it will end.
But a relationship between two people, both of whom are sub or dom, even if they don’t know that about each other, or about themselves, can work